id Software: Xbox 360 the primary dev platform?

I think I would say that John says that probably the primary development platform for Rage is actually the 360.

The level of ambiguity in that statement is unnerving.

Also what are you up to posting news articles so early in the morning? :P

It's interesting... I didn't want to (overly) read too much into the fact that Todd H specifically said it was Carmack's view; most of the time he just says "we" (as in id).

It's probably been a point of contention internally there, just how much they should be *perceived* to be catering to consoles. Carmack seems to go wherever the technology is most appealing to him, which doesn't always seem to coincide with where the $ may be.

(...or it could be just that the Xbox 360 is the most storage challenged platform (something they've vented about before)...so it makes sense not to have to spend forever reverse engineering a stack of data backwards.)

As for me, I'm cheating: I'm in LA, bahah.

That is not going to please the PC boy's about ( the primary development platform for Rage is actually the 360).

So long as it works fine on both systems and the PC version isn't a crappy afterthought of a port, I don't mind. And given that it's from id I don't see why they'd make a crap port.

There's nothing wrong with multi-platform games or engines provided they actually work properly on all platforms. Case in point is the abysmal GTA IV PC port for an example of something that sucks.

Well, actually it's been a fundamental, sort of philosophical shift at the company, is that we really have transitioned from, first and foremost, a PC developer to a multiplatform developer..

Considering the quality of their recent efforts, I'd say they have shifted from first and foremost, a company that produces good games, into one that produces dumbed down console trash that sucks arse.

The sad thing is that id was a big part of PC gaming's development. But considering id lately, and pretty much every game dev's attitudes lately, can't say I'm surprised consoles are a big thing now. Because $$$ means more over quality.

how are console games worse of quality than pc games? :\

as long as they keep the low ress textures in the consoles and give high ress textures/high quality options to PC i have no problem with this, this also includes poor console -> PC Ports as well.

lack of memory/gpu raw power on consoles mean they have to use lower ress textures, lack off aa / af is also there, small maps longer loading times on consoles, server browser is a joke on almost all games, pirated games can be played online. rts games are a joke on consoles.

as a consume who has no basic understanding of a pc, the console is more attractive, hence why they are pretty much in all homes, so as a developer u want to be targeting those, the pc is superior in every way to a console, but without some basic knowledge or taking time to do some research before buying a pc, most people have no idea..but u say xbox360..or ps3..u know exactly what ure getting.

its upto people like amd/intel/nvidia/ati and MS to make it easier for the consumer.

if i was a developer and i want to make a new game right now, i would be thinking console first, then pc as a after thought, its sad but thats how it is, and i would just like to add that pc's are quiet cheap now to build, but if u don't know what ure looking for, expect retailers to rip u off with there 'gaming rigs' with the low end hardware or like dell with there high end machines with extreme prices that is really outrageous..

amd/intel/nvidia/ati can fix most of this issues by release there hardware in a more friendly format. Not 5-6 variations of the same hardware which confuses the customer, nvidia recently rebranded there gf9 series into gt 200 series naming scheme..., and ms can release one OS or 2, business/home.

at the end of the day, when it comes to a PC there is more to it , when it comes to a console, there is not much to it, u plug it, put disc u play.

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