Fri 27 Jul 07, 6:36pm

Um ...... WOW !!!!!!

Fri 27 Jul 07, 6:59pm

it is awesome... but sif the people be black... in the dark you can only see there eyes...

Fri 27 Jul 07, 7:09pm

, i believe thats the point... which will be a bit hectic.

Fri 27 Jul 07, 8:55pm

Black, white who gives a crap. Even pink people in this game would own.

Fri 27 Jul 07, 8:59pm

It's like an uber pretty RE4.

That is a very good thing.

Fri 27 Jul 07, 9:03pm

Wonder if politicians etc will be all "zomg its racist white people mass killing black people, ban"

Will this be out for ps3 also?

Fri 27 Jul 07, 9:12pm

360 all the way :) But yes it's coming out on PS3 as well.

Fri 27 Jul 07, 10:59pm

Love that punch. =) it's the only reason he buffed up so he can sock it to them hand to hand.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 1:10am

Doesn't look greatly different to RE4 really...

Sat 28 Jul 07, 2:46am

The gameplay does look the same which is a good thing, but im sure there will be many differences from RE4 weapons, story line. maybe it will actually be scary unlike 4.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 9:56am

Looks sweet!
The detail in the locales is awesome. At work atm so I couldnt watch it with sound, but the combat and scenarios looks FTW.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 11:25am

Sat 28 Jul 07, 11:26am

Is it just me, or is there something subtlely racist about the setting: gunning down mobs of angry Africans?...

Sat 28 Jul 07, 11:41am

Is it just me, or is there something subtlely racist about the setting: gunning down mobs of angry Africans?...

Would you complained if it was white people? God forbid African's are black.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 11:53am

why/how is that raciest?

If it was gunning down White/Caucasians i bet you wouldn't even consider asking that question. But because they are black African u ask the question. It makes sense with the setting, they are what populates that region of the country after all. raciest would be going out and shooting only the African Americans proportion of the American population.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 12:04pm

That looks effing awesome. Haven't really touched the series since the first one but might give this a shot!

Sat 28 Jul 07, 12:13pm

:-/ I hope this is coming out on the Wii - Just had a blast shooting up 'tards in RE4.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 12:35pm

Looks like Chris found some steroids.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 1:07pm

I liiiike

Sat 28 Jul 07, 1:14pm

I haven't played RE since the first one either. Zombies are cool though, and the African setting and it's people are great too since zombie fiction in general was born out of the Voodoo system of faith (I think.)

Sat 28 Jul 07, 1:20pm

It looks like the same kinda shooting sytem as RE4, but that looks much better...

There were about.... what 50+ crazy people running at him in one scene. Looks insannneeeee

Sat 28 Jul 07, 3:37pm

"Would you complained if it was white people?"

No, I certainly wouldn't have. The image of a handsome (pretty?), buff white man shooting machette weilding black Africans (in very well realised environs, I might add), does somehow rankle.

Go here:

http://www.heroine-sheik.com/

"God forbid African's are black."

..and the heroes of RE games always white...

Mind you, there was a very interesting discussion on the sexuality of the RE4's male protagonist on the same site.

"...raciest would be going out and shooting only the African Americans proportion of the American population."

Actually, no. South Africa? Overwhelming black population, ruled and controlled by minority white govt and armed forces. In fact that's what the trailer brought to mind.

What if the protagonist hadn't have been Chris Redfield? What is the protagonist had been a member of a local STARS - and black?

Sat 28 Jul 07, 3:48pm

One final comment: in the trailer the 'zombies' don't much move like the lumbering old zombies of the original RE games - which does nothing but add to the problemtic nature of the images.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 4:33pm

We don't give a flying **** about the character's race. What we do care about if is the game is good or not. Go take up the issue with Capcom if it annoys you.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 4:39pm

wow shooting an angry black crowd, definitely going to get this one

Sat 28 Jul 07, 4:40pm

"We don't give a flying **** about the character's race."

Yes, obviously. And that truly is a great shame.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 5:56pm

i DONT REALLY like interracial porn, but i REALLY LIKE black and latino girls =)

Sat 28 Jul 07, 6:16pm

Race is a moot point... this is the setting of the game & black people happen to live there, like white people in the first RE games, or Spaniards (who, for arguments sake are generally have slightly darker skin) in re4.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 6:41pm

Snykes wrote:

"Race is a moot point... this is the setting of the game & black people happen to live there, like white people in the first RE games, or Spaniards (who, for arguments sake are generally have slightly darker skin) in re4."

Those are indeed the facts, however I believe it goes much deeper than that. Why, for instance, had there been so much response to these images across the ned (again, see the web link above). Why wasn't there this sort of reaction to RE4? Simply because there is a lot of very ugly truth in the trailer that goes well beyond the actual game.

These images aren't new to us. We saw them out of Alabama in the '60
s, South Africa in the 80's, and Somalia in the '90's. That is, that while RE5 is meant to be a zombie-survival-horror game, the trailer looks like a racial imperialism: handsome white guy blasting hordes of angry black people.

And justifying it as a "setting in a game" or "just a game" is glossing over the impact these images are having on quite a few people out there.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 6:42pm

i'm a big fan of the Resident Evil series. Enjoyed RE 4. And RE 5 looks awesome; very action-packed and great visuals.

Though i do miss the tense, spine-tingling thrill of the likes of Resident Evil 2 and 3.

I hope RE5 keeps as realistic as possible. eg - realistic modern weaponry rather than futuristic weaponry, smart AI and beleivable enemy rather than huge big fake monsters and repetitive 'angry mobs'. etc etc
I hope it has a very interesting story line as it did in the other installments - not just Chris is in Africa because there is constant rioting and he finds its because of some infection / disease... i want something twisted, different and intruiging.

Basically, Resident Evil has always raised the bar in all ways possible (game-play, graphics, twisted story-lines etc) - and has been the bench mark in its self-created sub-genre's, and with Resident Evil 5 being the first installment on the 'next-gen' consoles, i hope it has everything the other 4 games had - plus much more.

Resident Evil 3 was much like an updated and modified carry-on from RE 2...Whereas RE 4 was completely different. I hope that RE5 is completely different again, rather than being a slightly modified and updated version of RE4.

I also hope they change the "RESIDENT .. EVIL .. (xx) !" intro voice-over, because the one for RE4 sounded pretty dodgey

Sat 28 Jul 07, 6:47pm

matteoq - you are looking far to deep into this game, and reading between lines they never even wrote.
If you think Capcom is making racial remarks, or even has a racial stance, which is being passed through the use of characters and setting in the last two (including RE5) Resident Evil games - you're more racist than anyone.

while RE5 is meant to be a zombie-survival-horror game

(not since RE3)

Sat 28 Jul 07, 7:33pm

Matteoq, that cose they aint exactly "ZOMBIES". have u played RE4, they dont move like lumbering old "ZOMBIES"

if u want to root on about the racial factors u think this game is showing, dont do it here,
complain to someone who cares. If ur gonna go on about Resident Evil games, then ur a long way from games that show a racial side to em'. as it ALOT worse.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 7:36pm

I can't believe people get upset about black race zombies and then feels stupid enough to call it racist game, I never heard of anyone getting upset about white race zombies.

Overall the game looks really good and I think that is where it should end.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 8:15pm

as is said above; Resident Evil hasn't been a "zombie-survival-horror game" since RE3...
So if you have played RE4, or seen the preview to RE5; you would have noticed they are no longer zombies.
Therefore Chris is in Africa, getting chased by what looks to be infected / diseased / posessed africans.. racist? i don't think so.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 9:12pm

drb wrote:

"matteoq - you are looking far to deep into this game, and reading between lines they never even wrote."

My reaction was a visceral one. By "reading between lines" - that is, thinking carefully about a) my reaction and b) the trailer - I realised why I felt that way.

drb also wrote:

"If you think Capcom is making racial remarks, or even has a racial stance, which is being passed through the use of characters and setting in the last two (including RE5) Resident Evil games - you're more racist than anyone."

Huh? How does that make me racist? Since I never aluded to the race of the developers, let alone exploited racial stereotypes nor cast a slur on the developers' race, I'm not sure what you mean.

Prima1 wrote:

"I never heard of anyone getting upset about white race zombies."

Prima, that's because a there is an enormouse cultural gap between the paradigm of a white man/women killing white (or even latino) zombies, and a white man in an African village killing machette wielding Africans.

It's all about the context of the images.

For all I know the game contains many many excellent representations of Africans (though I'll go out on a limb and bet none of them are controllable or main characters - as I would assume that all those who have told me I am "stupid" - not an accusation I have thrown out yet - have not suffered racial stereotyping or persecution).

I am talking specifically about this trailer, not the game, since I (and I assume no one above) have not played it.

Has anyone stopped to think why (re: the website I referred to above) quite a number of people reacted in the same way as I? At the very least the trailer is touching a number of people who are culturally sensitive.

buckrealfast wrote:

" If ur gonna go on about Resident Evil games, then ur a long way from games that show a racial side to em'. as it ALOT worse."

I agree. GTA - great games that they are (and, BTW, I am a fan of the RE series) - does raise concerns, and obviously not just racial. "Postal", while not racial, also raises issues. As do, if you like, the Christian 'Rapture' RTS games.

But as Prima said "that is where is should end". I too hope it's a good game - not just in terms of game mechanics.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 9:13pm

Also just to add some current clariffication to how race relations are going between blacks and whites in current day south africa...

Apartheid and segregation have taken a complete 180 and basically white people are now more often than not the victims of oppression, rape and violence. South Africa has been ranked second in the world for Assualt and murder and first in the world for rapes per capita.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 9:41pm

pineapple_guy wrote:

"Apartheid and segregation have taken a complete 180 and basically white people are now more often than not the victims of oppression, rape and violence."

This may or may not be true, Pineapple, but it is 1) off the point and 2) very very rocky ground. So I'll leave it.

Let me ask evryone this: when you saw those images, did you not immediately think about the current and ongoing state of affairs in West Africa? Did any number of movies or news clips come to mind? Did you not immediately understand the context?

If not, I'd say stop playing games for a while and have a look around.

If so, then you simply cannot deny that at the very least the trailer plays on a number of our beliefs and concerns about Africa.

Look, I'll stop now. I'm obviously preaching to no one but myself. I'll leabe you with a number of comments from many different blogs that echo much clearer what I'm banging on about:

"Visuals contain meaning no matter the story surrounding their context. Advertising lives off it."

" can't imagine that Capcom wasn't aware that a West African setting could ruffle a few feathers, but simply from a financial standpoint it's a proven market strategy. I really do hope that they utilize it for constructive socio-political commentary however. I mean, that's what the zombie genre is all about anyway!"

""uncomfortably simian" is exactly it. You know, my father is black, but I'm "culturally white," if that makes any sense; I don't identify with "the African-American community" at all, even though I live in a predominantly low-income black neighborhood, with Hispanics as the second. I feel I'm a minority here. I see the worst of those cultures in my daily life. There're unique positive and negative attributes to all cultural and ethnic groups, and I think it's just not rational to pretend that's not so. But there are also high sensitivities for certain ones in certain contexts, and I see certain negative features exaggerated here, and I got the same sense of discomfort..."

"The only controversy that it should raise is if the game mirrors tribal warfare too closely, but unfortunately few people in America are aware of the real problems in Africa to see the connection. I'm not saying there should be any controversy, but a healthy debate could be formed. What are the odds than any sort of noise will be either healthy or progressive? 100 to 1?"

Goodnight good luck.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 9:51pm

U type very much lol.

Sat 28 Jul 07, 10:07pm

Way too many racial and political opinions are being made based on the gameplay trailer.. (mainly from matteoq atm)

I'm sure this game will be less racial (if at all) than most other games on the market, and will not enforce any political attitudes, as a) this game will be distributed world-wide, and b) there would be no point to include such details.
Resident Evil [was] a survival-horror series, and IMO does not, and has not carried any attitudes or opinion towards race or politics.

As i said you're reading too much into this game. You should get over the whole black-african-mobs (not zombies)- in -africa thing, and get back to talking about the game.
You cannot say Capcom is having a stab at the current political and racial issue within Africa, just by viewing a 30 second clip of a bunch of africans chasing Chris.
- BTW who is in the wrong? Is it Chris for gunning down and kick-boxing a bunch of posessed African's?
Perhaps the Africans' aren't possesed, maybe their of mob of angry racists who wish to kill any white man who enters their town?

You're making too many assumptions matt.

Sun 29 Jul 07, 2:02am

Matteoq wrote

"It's all about the context of the images"

the context is its a trailer for a game, a game with zombie's who happen to be black.

now i can see your side of things, white man shooting black people. but that takes it out of context, so what ur saying is actually out of context with the trailer/images.

Sun 29 Jul 07, 11:08am

There Zombies! It doesn't matter if there black, white, your mother or a child. It will friggin' eat you. Kill it.

(PS. So getting this one on my ps3 :D)

Sun 29 Jul 07, 11:40am

Hey matt live a little, you sound like your to scared to even leave your house with all your past comments.

Sun 29 Jul 07, 11:49am

This game is racist against Zombies , why are we only killing zombies ?

Sun 29 Jul 07, 12:21pm

Of course any sensible gamer isn't going to take the racist viewpoint, but you can just see the usual anti-video game watch groups having a field day with it nonetheless.

I think the RE5 developers just innocently thought that the African village environment would be an original setting for a game. They are Japanese after-all and likely don't have the same views and exposure to the black vs white race issues in western society.

The fact is that in it's current form it appears to be a white protagonist going up against hordes of zombied black people. I agree that it really shouldn't matter but there's plenty of people out there looking for any excuse to take a jab at violent games.

Sun 29 Jul 07, 1:02pm

This game is racist against Zombies , why are we only killing zombies ?

Hahaha

Yea Dan, new setting and stuff i agree.

I reckon they just trying something new also. In the dark, all you see are there eyes. i think its perfect.

Sun 29 Jul 07, 1:07pm

Goodnight good luck.

Goodnight, and Good luck ?

Sun 29 Jul 07, 1:50pm

Oh lawd, im cosidering purchasing a xbox 360 after HSC and getting like Assasins creed and some other games.

Sun 29 Jul 07, 5:35pm

what's that got to do with the price of eggs?

This IS the RE5 Gameplay Trailer topic, isn't it?

I also think Capcom are being original, with a new setting, new foe, and probably a slight twist on the other stories.. they are carrying on the excellent reputation Resident Evil has for originality. It's good to see.

definately gonna get this once its out on PS3..

Sun 29 Jul 07, 5:37pm

..and if anyyne like Matt thinks im racist for enjoying it... so be it (and get a life)

the world is over-pollitically-corrected these days.

Mon 30 Jul 07, 7:49am

This game looks sweet! i hope its on pc and not a shoddy port :S but then again i own a 360 so if it isn't ill grab it there, but id prefer pc as long as there is effective mouse and keyboard control
RE4 scared the hell outta me.

A little bit of history regarding zombies, George Romero, he practically invented the zombie subculture in the 60's with the black and white movie "night of the living dead". This is the series of 'Dead' movies, night of the living dead(60's - remade in colour in the 80')), dawn of the dead(70's remade totally off style in the 2000's), day of the dead, and recently, Land of the Dead.
In the cinema i heard ppl complaining about how shit land of the dead was, they simply didn't understand it, its a great movie in tradition of George Romero movie making (not the same Doom guy at least i dont think so). If their experience with zombies was Dawn of the Dead 2000 version, or 28 days Later(not exactly zombie but infestation none the less), then they proobably WOULDNT enjoy the original dead series.

Night of the Living Dead, back in the 60's, bucked EVERY racial trend by having a Black LEad character, who was strong and took leadership over a small group of survivors. Spoiler included, in the final scene he is shot in the head when the national guard move in. I included the spoiler because i dont think anyone here will go out and see the movie, as it hasnt made it way to dvd :P i bought it years ago on vhs (tapes kiddies).

George Romero ALWAYS intended zombies to have have social/racial imagery and conatations to them. Thats nothing new. Matteoq, im sorry but i disagree with everything u say and uve proven URSELF to be the narrow minded bigot here. With this game capcom is simply refuelling the zombie fire the way it has been since the 60's. Its only now inthe 2000's that knee jerk reactions from social revolutionarys have been given a forum to discuss their unwanted opinions.

I did not call u an idiot. U write well and i understand u.And u express ur points clearly. However, history escapes u. Thats enough. Dont critise my writing style (u = you) as u probably dont know the history behind THAT either. PM if ud like to hear my speech on who invented leetese (back in 1981!!!) and the downfalls of hanging onto a dying langauge (english version 1.0).

plz, ur contributions are welcome on GA, (although it might not seem impressive, with my total accounts atttached to different email address ive lost since wireplay i am around the 7000 post mark)

Mon 30 Jul 07, 8:48am

damn foriegners are always getting themselves turned into zombies....

Mon 30 Jul 07, 10:48am

ಠ_ಠ

Mon 30 Jul 07, 3:38pm

Damn you Monster!!!You stole my Rant! :)
Good point, well made.

Wed 01 Aug 07, 10:30pm

I agree with Monster.

If you combine his comments about the [shortened] history of Zombies in film in traditional George Romero style, with the gameplay style, themes and attitudes presented in the Resident Evil series (some of which ive described in my previous deffensive whines) you can understand why knowone agrees with Matteoq and other people with the same interpretation of the TRAILER*.

Though we can relate to where your coming from, and why people may think its racist and would want to get it banned - it simply fits style Capcom creators have used to present a realistic, horryfing, gorey and scary Zombie foe.. and with each installemnt the zombies have slightly changed, becoming more agile and smart.
As of RE4 they have changed from being ex-civilian zombies, to infected / posessed villagers, and RE5 seems to be carrying it futher.



* i wrote 'TRAILER' in capital letters to point out that you are making assumptions and accusations based on your personal opinion of a short gameplay trailer. Nothing more. Unless you have played the game, read any interviews with game designers or writers, creators, or Capcom spokes-people - your baised racial opinions should remain personal.

Sat 04 Aug 07, 12:43pm

Of course any sensible gamer isn't going to take the racist viewpoint, but you can just see the usual anti-video game watch groups having a field day with it nonetheless. I think the RE5 developers just innocently thought that the African village environment would be an original setting for a game. They are Japanese after-all and likely don't have the same views and exposure to the black vs white race issues in western society. The fact is that in it's current form it appears to be a white protagonist going up against hordes of zombied black people. I agree that it really shouldn't matter but there's plenty of people out there looking for any excuse to take a jab at violent games.

Yes...am worried we may end up with another MANHUNT 2 (although this could be worse 'cos it's actually a game I care about!!!!)