Nintendo At E3 dswii
Posted 06:44pm 18/07/07 by: Dan
23 Comments | 0 Faves
Login to add faves.
Screenshot
You've read our reports on the Microsoft and Sony contingent at E3 2007, but what about the third player? Nintendo haven't been forgotten here on BigPond GameArena and Steve was on-site scoping out all things new and upcoming from the big N. Read on for his in-depth coverage.




Nintendo At E3

Screenshot
While Microsoft gave us a solid glimpse at their equally solid 2007 line up, Nintendo offered a slightly different approach. Their press conference was riddled with reminders that they're taking gaming in an all-new direction, one even further removed from their usual 'kiddie' image. It could, in fact, be argued they've gone from 'kiddie' to 'oldie'. But making such assumptions would be a bad move from the punter field of play. At the very core of Ninty's new business model rests hope for the rest of the industry. If games are to ever be held in the same light as the likes of movies, music and television, the audiences involved have to expand, and more directly, expand beyond the core veteran players that have, until now, kept videogaming as their one true secret.

There's no question the Wii has expanded the videogame audience. The gesture sensitive Wii Remote and its ease of use has heralded a new way to interact with games, and this is something Nintendo drove home during their pre-show press event. The entire thing was caked with videos of news reports from mainstream media talking about the Wii and how it has opened the videogame world to a new spectrum of consumers, consumers who are no longer locked into a stereotype or specific demographic. In fact, when NOA president Reggie Fils-Aime took the stage, the first important figures he threw at us were pulled from the overall growth of the industry in its three key markets. In Japan, he cited growth in 2007 at 114%, the US was at 44% and the UK 42%, and he wasn't afraid to suggest this growth was in direct response to the success of both the Wii and DS.

So with this idea in mind, where were Nintendo going to take their lead? According to the NOA front man, it's all about maintaining their hold on the mainstream with such titles as Nintendogs, Brain Training and Wii Sports. These titles, he suggests, act as satellites to the less hardcore gamers out there, and even to those who have never played games before. And as satellites, they eventually introduce the new consumer to the old, and the world of games, while expanding, becomes smaller, also.

Which brought us to the games. (Finally). More party compilations? You bet. Mario and Sonic, together at last in Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games is essentially just that, a collection of mini-games built around events at the Olympics. A new Rayman Raving Rabbids title was also revealed as well as The Sims 2 Castaway, a seminal Animal Crossing-esque title, err... crossed with The Sims. More party games were also shown in short video form, but they weren't really the games we were interested in and it was when we saw footage of Super Smash Bros: Brawl we all began to feel like maybe Nintendo hadn't forgotten us.

Screenshot
SSBB looked exactly as you'd expect: Fast, colourful, fun and most of all chaotic. New characters such as Wario and Pitt (from Kid Icarus for those of you up the back), definitely made everyone feel special, but the biggest surprise came in the live demos of both The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hour Glass for DS, and the much anticipated third installment in the 3D Metroid series, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.

Phantom Hour Glass is one of the first games on DS to only use the stylus and touch pad for character control. Every other button on the DS simply houses a shortcut to a menu or map. Everything else, the real time stuff; it's all handled by the stylus. Awkward you say? Not at all, in fact within 30 seconds of handling the game on the show floor I was buzzing about, talking to people, picking up objects and fighting monsters without a single problem. This is one of the most intuitive action titles on the DS and Nintendo needs to be complemented on once again showing the rest of the development community just how to get the most out of their hardware. No official word on a release date for this game in Australia, but in the US it hits October 1, so here's hoping we don't have to wait too long.

Screenshot
Metroid Prime showed that the steady flow of screens we've seen recently are by no measure an indication of how the game looks in motion. Stunning, beautiful, crisp... umm, stunning (did I mention that already?), well you get the idea. But visuals aside, it's all about the controls for this games, as we're all expecting it to be the benchmark for the fps genre on the Wii, and based on watching this live demo, it's going to be that and more. The target lock-on from the first game remains, however, with the Wii Remote, you're absolutely free to aim beyond your locked target. This small indication of freedom stands as the first rung on an innovative ladder I'm sure will prove itself once the game is released in the US August 27. Again, no official word from Nintendo of Australia on a local release date, but as soon as we know, you will.

Something else that came from the live demo was a new peripheral to be used with either fps games or that new breed of shooter heading Wii's way - on rails arcade-inspired (or ripped) shooters. The first of which will be Capcom's Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles which is an arcade shooter romp through the first three chapters of the infamous series. The other is Sega's recent arcade smash, Ghost Squad. The peripheral we saw is dubbed the Wii Zapper, it's essentially a gun-shaped housing for both the Nunchuk and the Wii Remote and offers a more solid device with which to play these games. A quick run through from yours truly with Res Evil painted a picture of promise, but a few minutes with it just wasn't enough to work out if it'll be worth it in the long-run, however, Nintendo did say the device would be packaged with an undisclosed title when its made available later in the year.

Screenshot
Speaking of peripherals, Reggie also revealed Nintendo would be releasing a fully online-capable Mario Kart Wii title in the early part of 2008 which would come packaged with a new Wii Steering Wheel. Unfortunately I didn't get any time with this, and it does seem weird given Ubisoft already released a steering wheel way back when the machine launched, but it makes sense given their overall 'embracing mainstream' strategy in that, such a device will invite more people to the Wii, especially with such a well known title as Mario Kart. No details were given as to how many players will be able to race online, but Reggie did reveal the battle mode would also be an online component.

Online became a solid focus hereafter, with news that both Madden 08 and FIFA 08 would be fully online for the Wii, while the big news came with the announcement Medal of Honor Airborne would support 32 players online. Which seemed like big news to me, but was pretty well brushed over by Nintendo.

Screenshot
Probably the biggest announcement to come out of the event though, came from the ever enigmatic Shigeru Miyamoto as he unleashed Wii Fit, another non traditional game outing Nintendo hopes will continue to bridge the gap between veteran players and mainstream and newcomers alike. The title will come bundled with the Wii Balance Board, which at first glance looks more like a set of scales. Basically the device measures your centre of gravity and therefore your overall body mass. It then offers a number of training exercises in fields such as yoga, aerobics and muscle stretching, while also dishing out some pretty clever and fun mini games. The hope here is the device will further propel people to get off the couch and embrace games as a form of interactive entertainment. We have no idea about an Aussie release date, but Wii Fit is due to hit the US in early 2008, so anytime in 08 after that would be an appropriate guess.

From an excitement perspective, Nintendo's event wasn't all that empowering. Their big name games are games we've known to be coming for a while, and although seeing Zelda and Metroid in action was awesome, the only other real highlights were new trailers for SSBB and Super Mario Galaxy. Beyond these, Wii Fit is definitely a good idea, just not very 'gamey'. Equally, the introduction of the new housing peripherals seemed more gimmicky than anything else, though the announcement of Mario Kart Wii is still very cool. How Nintendo handles this monster they've created will be looked at under a microscope for the next 12 months, but it does seem like they have everything in check. Only time will truly tell though.
Comments on this Article
Wed 18 Jul 07, 6:57pm
fluffy_the_giant
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 6:57pm

very good read... i just hope nintendo aus come out with release dates for the big games soon.

Wed 18 Jul 07, 8:09pm
Ry_Ivan
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 8:09pm

The 90's called, it wants its graphics back.

Wed 18 Jul 07, 8:09pm
deius
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 8:09pm

I'm sure people are sick of me bitching about nintendo. However, just out of interest, name me a good Wii game that:

a) isn't a sequel or cut-down rehash of an older title eg all Mario games/ Super Smash Bros/ Metroid Prime etc

b) isn't a party game

c) isn't being marketed on a gimmick

Slim pickings.

Wed 18 Jul 07, 8:54pm
fluffy_the_giant
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 8:54pm

your right we are sick of it.

name the 3 biggest games of the year... oh thats right they are all sequals.

Wed 18 Jul 07, 8:55pm
deius
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 8:55pm

your right we are sick of it.

name the 3 biggest games of the year... oh thats right they are all sequals.


On which console? And no, I can think of a tonne of original content coming out. Not for Wii ofc, but other platforms.

Wed 18 Jul 07, 8:56pm
Pingu
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 8:56pm

Pretty hard to say because we cant name a good game unless it is released. Companies rely on sequels to make money. In Nintendo's case I wouldnt say Mario that mario games are sequels but a franchise that never dies despite some good and bad games. People love it because it is Mario and Nintendo would be stupid if they do not take advantage of it. But I agree the number of fresh titles are slim.


However this is an interesting subject because if we asked the same question for the PS3 and the 360. Obviously the effect wouldnt be so great on the Xbox due to its larger game library after a year head start. Alter the question abit. A good game that

a/isnt a sequel, rehashed, same franchise

b/isnt a first person shooter/or futuristic shooter

c/I'll leave this one out

Now you can see the game lineup for every single platform has shrunken by about 80%-90%. The 360 should be least effected by this. Considering many of most anticipated games for all 3 platforms wont be released for a while who knows which game will be good and which will be bad

Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:05pm
Starscream
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:05pm

as innovative as nintendo think they are, they seem to fall back on mario and zelda alot don't you think? i mean it's great what the wii can do, but once again nintendo suck because of the kiddie games and lack of games in general, this has been the same problem since the n64 and gamecube. you'd think they would have learnt their lessons by now? no? i guess not :(

Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:07pm
BeeJaY
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:07pm

what's so bad about sequels? all the wii games shown at E3 look awesome. Deius is WRONG.

Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:13pm
bloodylegend
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:13pm

as innovative as nintendo think they are, they seem to fall back on mario and zelda alot don't you think? i mean it's great what the wii can do, but once again nintendo suck because of the kiddie games and lack of games in general, this has been the same problem since the n64 and gamecube. you'd think they would have learnt their lessons by now? no? i guess not :(


yeah it does kinda suck for us gamers but then again there not really doing anything wrong really. just expanding the market right? which has to be a good thing...

Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:26pm
deius
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:26pm

which has to be a good thing...

Not necessarily.
I reject suggestions that the gaming industry "needs" noobs. Developers want their money, sure, but beyond that they have absolutely no value whatsoever.

The 360 should be least effected by this. Considering many of most anticipated games for all 3 platforms wont be released for a while who knows which game will be good and which will be bad

Yeah, but the PC (and 360 and PS3 to a lesser degree) has quantity and variety.
There's one FPS upcoming for Wii soon. There's one 3rd person adventure.
I mean, I know I'm being overly critical, but 360 at least has broad appeal. There's varying titles. Unexpected and reliable.

what's so bad about sequels?

What's so bad about sequels? I have no problem with sequels. I have a problem with unimaginative rehashes.
It's the same reason why people bag out EA.
Now I look at Nintendo, and they have the same tactics. They rely on a select few brands. And face it, most of them are years old. And EA are even doing the same thing as Nintendo, they're releasing rehashes

Now, two kinds of people buy these rehashes

1) Fanboys (and I don't mean this in a derogative way, because I have my own loyalty to franchises also, so I'm not criticising)
2) Noobs who don't know they're being ripped off

This is what "casual gaming" supposedly means.

I apologise for being overly cynical about what is mainly a fun console. But come on. Nothing lasts forever, you can't keep pumping out the same games over and over.
People will buy Mariokart even if they know the only thing they're getting is a couple of new items and maps. People will buy Super Smash Brothers just because of a few new characters.

Oh, they're great games, I don't deny that. But how the hell does that prop up a system?

Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:44pm
Starscream
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:44pm

yeah i don't see how a new mariokart or smashbrothers is being innovative when they were almost exactly the same games what, 10 years ago? mariokart being the older franchise as it was on the snes, how much can they keep pumping that title? same iwth that pokemon crap it's the same rpg style format it's been since the gameboy colour/pocket or whenver it first come out.
i see deius' point, if you can't see his point then man you are nothing but a fanboy or a noob.

i mean seriously think about this.... if they re released pong but with the ability to play it with nothing but your mind/brain, would it really be that cool? ........the answer is no it's not really that cool. so imo this new zelda rpg on ds being able to play it with your stylus is nothing more than blatantly using another gimmick to pass off old technology as new.

Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:58pm
Ry_Ivan
Posted: Wed 18 Jul 07, 9:58pm

Simply put, watching the Videos at E3, Killzone 2 looks like a whole lot more fun then the new Paper mario. Of course, i'm not 9 so in a way it's biased.

Thu 19 Jul 07, 2:34am
Starscream
Posted: Thu 19 Jul 07, 2:34am

Simply put, watching the Videos at E3, Killzone 2 looks like a whole lot more fun then the new Paper mario. Of course, i'm not 9 so in a way it's biased.
that comment made me roflots

Thu 19 Jul 07, 8:42pm
FoxMcCloud
Posted: Thu 19 Jul 07, 8:42pm

Hey Steve, why suggest Nintendo isn't just for kids anymore and then call them Ninty in the next sentence??? What are you dude, 6 years old??!!!

Fri 20 Jul 07, 12:14am
Tanka
Posted: Fri 20 Jul 07, 12:14am

What's so bad about sequels? I have no problem with sequels. I have a problem with unimaginative rehashes.
It's the same reason why people bag out EA.
Now I look at Nintendo, and they have the same tactics. They rely on a select few brands. And face it, most of them are years old. And EA are even doing the same thing as Nintendo, they're releasing rehashes


I see your point but most nintendo games arent just crappy rehashes of older games, there are some like the mario party series, but most of them are just newer games in the franchise which have alot more to offer than their previous titles. You couldn't exactly call a game like twillight princess a crappy rehash.

I don't care for the wiimote gimmick, nor do I care about the touch screens for the DS. I've said this before but the reason I own a nintendo console is because nintendo games are my favourite console games, everything else I would rather play on PC. Anybody who thinks i'm kiddy because of that can smurf off.

Fri 20 Jul 07, 9:24am
Steve Farrelly
Posted: Fri 20 Jul 07, 9:24am

Hey Foxy, it's just an affectionate term, like typing M$ instead of Microsoft or Sorny instead of Sony... and no, I'm only 5 and three quarters, I'm six in October - wanna come to my birthday?

Fri 20 Jul 07, 12:03pm
Fury
Posted: Fri 20 Jul 07, 12:03pm

Wooooo
Zelda for the DS, makes me glad i bought one recently.

Fri 20 Jul 07, 3:19pm
cjbloodwyn
Posted: Fri 20 Jul 07, 3:19pm


This is sad Deius, I have seen a couple of comments by you but this one takes the cake. I quote
Wii game that:

a) isn't a sequel or cut-down rehash of an older title eg all Mario games/ Super Smash Bros/ Metroid Prime etc

b) isn't a party game

c) isn't being marketed on a gimmick

Slim pickings.

WAKE UP FOOL, why don’t you try and name a game on any console that:

a) isn't a sequel or cut-down rehash of an older title eg all Mario games/ Super Smash Bros/ Metroid Prime etc

b) isn't a party game

c) isn't being marketed on a gimmick

according to your over zealous comment that means games like Halo is a rehash AKA wolfinstein, GTA series AKA any 3 person game out their, do you see my point every game out their is a rehash or is based on another game.

Is not a party game, so do you hate playing multiplayers or do you just like playing with your self.

Is not being marketed on a gimmick, well you guys asked for original correct me if I am wrong but games like Guitar Hero that are based on a gimmick are original.

Hay why stop at bagging games for not being original why not bag the hard ware to, lets see all the hardware has originated from PC's, wireless is nothing new, motion sensing (eat it Sony Fan boys) Sony copied this from Microsoft’s precision pro game pad which was release in 1994 and Sony thought they were being original or you were hoping so, the Wii mote is just a combination of wireless and gun tech combined the list goes on.

The point don’t bag the companies for rehashing games, having unoriginal ideas or doing something gimmicky, because this is what pushes companies and developers to the next level by trying to out do what they or someone else has already done.

Nintendo is doing the industry a favor, even Microsoft is applauding them for broadening the industry and here some of you guys knock them for doing it, obviously you guys know more than Microsoft and Nintendo combined maybe you should start your own console company just to have everyone laugh at you.

As for Nintendo not having the range of titles, well think about it. Nintendo had a large catalogue of games for the N64, but due to poor sales companies pulled support form Nintendo which was evident in the catalogue of games available for the game cube. Now its a rather different story Microsoft leads the industry in hardware units (12 million in the market) Nintendo have claimed a solid 2nd with over 10 million and Sony has fallen far from the tree with only 4 million. No one knew Nintendo would comeback this strongly so developers are getting on the band wagon late leaving Nintendo to space out the big titles as much as possible until the 3rd party support really kicks in. I do not know about you but I am really looking forward to 2008 to see what Nintendo comes out with as far as titles go, Microsoft comes out with as far as gimmick stuff goes and what Sony does to improve there position, hopefully a nice price drop or maybe a PS3 with out the Blue ray player would drop it a fair bit, especially seeing latest reports are HD-DVD is starting to take the market.

I HOLD NO ALEGANCE TO ANYONE, I EMBRACE ANY AND ALL CONSOLE MANUFACTURES AND GAMES FOR WITH OUT COMPETATION THERE WOULD BE NO NEX GEN!

Fri 20 Jul 07, 11:58pm
rambo
Posted: Fri 20 Jul 07, 11:58pm

personally i have a gaming PC and a wii, that pretty much covers all bases. my PC does everything a 360/PS3 can do and much more - besides, the majority of console games are also on PC these days. my wii has gaming experiences that none of the other platforms can deliver.

i think nintendo are doing what they have to - there just isn't room for 3 consoles which aim for the same thing. wii/DS are a different kind of product, appealing to a wider audience, providing a different gaming experience... whatever you want to call it, they are clearly going gangbusters. if you're not interested in wii, i don't see any point in trashing it - it's not supposed to be a 360/PS3, and i think it's important to realise that people who buy wii *are* actually intelligent enough to know that.

more to the topic of E3 and upcoming games, obviously there will be some superb nintendo titles (metroid, brawl, galaxy, kart and so on). but i think that we'll also see better 3rd-party wii games over the coming months. the story was the same with DS - initially, 3rd party developers weren't making good use of the technology, but with time games were developed which better used the interface. we're seeing more developers jumping on board with wii, and what we're seeing with EA and rockstar in particular is pretty encouraging. i think it's also a case of developers being willing to learn from their mistakes, this was very much the case with DS.

ultimately, time will tell. of course PS3 will pick up over the coming year, of course 360 will continue to do well. no one sane would think nintendo will 'win' everything, destroy all opposition. but by branching out to a different type of product, they are offering something quite different to PS3/360. that is essentially where the success is coming from.

Sat 21 Jul 07, 12:20am
Pingu
Posted: Sat 21 Jul 07, 12:20am

Hey Foxy, it's just an affectionate term, like typing M$ instead of Microsoft or Sorny instead of Sony... and no, I'm only 5 and three quarters, I'm six in October - wanna come to my birthday?


invite me. remember to include the freebee party bag that we all get for coming to your birthday party! Oooo I love those McDonalds mini party bags full of fridge magnets, balloons, cardboard party hats and a spin toy. It makes the whole party worth going to..


Oh and back on topic!

I'll pickup a PS3 along the track for MGS4 which it coming along great and maybe killzone2. Graphics are gorgeous but the Gameplay looks all too familar to all the shooters that are coming out. Ive had my fair share of futuristic and classic shooters. Maybe this is where the Wii excels. Its limitation can also be its advantage. Wii only owners will never see the light of realistic shooters like GoW and Resistance but it lets Devs concentrate on art direction and different genres or games. This is why I think there are so many party games on the Wii though obviouslt some great, some bad and some /wrist. The controller makes all the difference. Lets lightgun games much more straight forward to play and gesture controls are taken advantage from the people who yank controllers back when they're panicing. This is why I think a Wii combo with (360/PS3/PC) is a great choice instead of being narrow minded with one console. Obviously you dont buy both at the same time unless you're pretty wealthy.

Sat 21 Jul 07, 12:38am
Mushroomboy
Posted: Sat 21 Jul 07, 12:38am

I love how people bag the wii for being unoriginal and then criticise it for not having enough First Person Shooters...hohoho...

Sat 21 Jul 07, 12:41am
Pingu
Posted: Sat 21 Jul 07, 12:41am

sorry for the errors and spelling mistakes :P I didnt proof read

Mon 23 Jul 07, 10:26am
FoxMcCloud
Posted: Mon 23 Jul 07, 10:26am

I'm only 5 and three quarters, I'm six in October - wanna come to my birthday?


Only if Stevie agrees to be a big boy and use terms like "The Big N".

Jokes aside, I'd love to come to your hand party so we can play with each other's Wiis.

Post Your Comment

BigPond GameArena Members must log in to comment on news articles. Not a member? Join now.
Read the latest Game News and Features like this "Nintendo At E3" at GameArena. Then check out our Game News & Features, Game Reviews, Game Downloads, Game Forums, Ladders, Servers, Server Rentals or Competitions. Or browse our online Games Shop for PC Games, Mobile Games, Web Games, or Gift Certificates. Shop online for the cheapest prices on the top games. Our online store is secure. BigPond Games is the most convenient way to play games in Australia.
 
News Extras
Let the News come to you...
Subscribe to our RSS feeds

News Updates Straight to your inbox...
Subscribe to our Newsletter

Know something we don't...
Submit a news story
Facebook Activity
News Archive
Jump to a Month:
BigPond GameArena Weekly Update 3rd February 2012
BigPond GameArena Weekly Update 3rd February 2012 PCPS3Wii
Posted: 06 Feb 12 | 0 downloads | 155.8MB

BigPond GameArena Weekly Update 27th January 2012
BigPond GameArena Weekly Update 27th January 2012 PCPS3Wii
Posted: 27 Jan 12 | 0 downloads | 202MB

BigPond GameArena Weekly Update 20th January 2012
BigPond GameArena Weekly Update 20th January 2012 PCPS3Wii
Posted: 18 Jan 12 | 0 downloads | 130.8MB

BigPond GameArena Weekly Update 13th January 2012
BigPond GameArena Weekly Update 13th January 2012 PCPS3Wii
Posted: 12 Jan 12 | 0 downloads | 121.2MB

Advertisement

Feedback Form