Where is the moderation of these forums? Gungame suggestions getting ignored and people posting thing in places they shouldnt. Now dont give me the BS that admins arnt paid so the cant be expected to be your begg and call when ever you need them but to be honest the gg suggestion was posted on the 22nd of March it is now the 12th of April not good enough, aswell as the fact that all other games in the forums seem to get ALOT of admin attention if you dont like hosting the game and the community it comes with... Why keep the servers running? I mean im not just venting my frustrations it is almost all of the Game Arena CS community just that the rest get soo sick and tired of not recieving ANY help from you lot they leave GA for Games.on.net or recoil where there are admins on EVERYDAY Consider this my final goodbye because im also sick and tired of the community following the admins advice "post on the forums" *check* "get support" *check* "post links to map packs: *check* "and we will deliver *...oh i see you guys have gone back on your word* fantastic GA im leaving and the war team who were interested in participation in your ladder are also leaving thats 10 players gone now it dont sound like much but what about if the group starts to spread word.. Think about that GA

what ladder?

Thank's for your feedback, I'll make sure the right people see it tomorrow.

I propose that new GameOp's that play the GA servers frequently, have experience in moderating and administrating servers and frequently visit the forums be appointed.

Yes, due to the new release of games, most GameOp's are moderating those forums and servers but neglecting CS:S even though they are still assigned as a GameOp for CS:S.

Some of the subjects on the matter is quite appalling and just to name some recent events, a GameOp not following the T&C when a serious offence was committed which led to a ban a few months after the incident report was uploaded, lack of moderation on the forum which leads to personal abuse, constant swearing, unanswered community threads on map and server changes which have been up for quite some time and lack of server administrating.

Most of these thing can be easily solved but the question still remains as to why GameOps that have applied, have been accepted and understand what must be acquired of them, still remain to neglect what they have been assigned to do.

I, myself, once applied for the position of GameOp for CS:S but due to the behaviour of GameOps and forum members, i now consider it a lost cause and have moved on from the game, and yet still, i visit the forums quite frequently because this is the community i once adored.

Last time i posted a long post about the GA community on the subject of serious offences that were caused within the servers, i did receive a reply form a GameOp which was TL:DR. If the GameOps that are appointed to this game do not want to help the community, they should be dropped and new community members that are willing to put in the effort, should be appointed. This is my opinion and as far as i can see, alot of community members are unsatisfied with the CS:S GameOps at the moment.

I will apologize about the long post but it was needed to get my point across.

(now to wait a few months for a response from a GameOp)

Please keep in mind that we do have lives outside of css, most of us have a job, a family and a social life. It's not in our job description to be on our pcs 24/7 waiting for your message about a player being disruptive on a GA server, that is why the incident report system has been made, if you're lucky you will get a responsive gameop on cogs, if not just wait or play on a different server. As for your comment about us not playing or being active on the servers, you may find that yes a lot of us are in another game, or we are aliasing because we don't want to be annoyed by "OMG! You're a GameOp?!?! I'm so going to add you to friends and we're gonna be best friends and buddies for life." Or simply we want to enjoy playing the game without being annoyed.

As for chopst1xz's post about the maps on some of the gg servers, I have spoken to the regulars on most of the servers and have received mixed opinions about whether to keep or remove the maps mentioned in those posts. Some of the players like them, some of them don't. Just because you don't like a map doesn't mean everyone else won't either. In the cases of gg_fy_sewer_v2-m and gg_dm_hangumhigh-m the opinions of the players were 50-50. Half the players wanted them go to while the other half didn't. So the reason nothing has been done about it is because the player base can't make up it's mind about which way to go. Now if there was a clear winner, that would be forwarded to the admins, a job would have been logged, and the maps would have been removed from the map rotation. Until such time as the players can agree on such things the map rotation will stay the same.

Yes, i know GameOps have lives outside of css, most of you have a job, a family and a social life, but if GameOps do not have the time to do what is required of them, which they agreed upon before being accepted as a GameOp, which includes being frequently active on the forum and servers, then simply put, they should not have the privilege of being a GameOp for css.

Yeah GameArena gungame is horrible. Two mates go on either team and camp and wait for everyone to die. Then everyones stuck waiting for 15 minutes for the twits to give up. Needs an RTV and a votekick...

to be honest square fi the don't voice their opinions on these here forums they shouldn't get a vote. And once again crona +1

This. Just because players are playing GA servers, does not mean that they are part of the community.

True, but just because they don't actively participate in the forums does not mean they aren't part of the community either.

The GameOps do the best job they can, yes i admit maybe could do with a couple more cause there seems to never be a Op around when you need one but also its important we do our part as well, demo hackers/cheats, screen shots and report them so that things can be done about it. Having a cry here about nothing being done is stupid, while your here crying the hacker/cheat you seen on the server would of had his fun and is still free to come back and do it over and over again, but if you took 5mins to demo him and report it then a Op will see it and it will be bye bye hacker/cheat, crying is pointless... do something

im not having a cry here the point im trying to make is that if I were to demo i would be spending most of my game time in spec and that and i got plenty of css game ops in my friends list and 1 aint been oniine for about 200days and another couple are always in other games if they dont want to play they game y should they still be game op for it? I spoke to one not naming names but they said "yeah still gameop over there but aint played css in about 13 months LOL!"

chopst1xz gameops have to demo offenders just like everyone else does, it's not like we can just go on, see a player break the T&Cs or CoC and instantly ban them, we must submit an incident report just as you have to. As for us not being online, you have me on friends and I've been playing css quite constantly, look at my recently played stats on steam. Also, I don't remember you ever contacting me about an incident.

if some GameOps aren't doing there job in certain games then its up to GA to work that out, its always been up to GA on what goes on in there servers, im sure GA will do something, you never know they could decide to just pull the plug and take down the servers

So who is the big cheese that inflicts a ban?

The gameops still do the banning, but we still have to submit a report.

*cough* yeah, good work there when i uploaded a demo.


I don't see how any post above this one even relates to hacking and demoing. What the thread is based on is GameOp participation is general.

im stating that it aint always up to the damn GameOp to do everything, you play on a server with good rego for free, the least you can do is take it into yourself to help out by taking a demo or a SS, but then again dont wanna stop your pro time

CronA, do not complain about how long it takes for a gameop to answer your incident reports, you do not know what their personal circumstances might be. For example, I myself am 200mb off being capped for on-peak for the next week, so please excuse our reluctance sometimes to download demoes and review your incident reports.

**** addiction? I'm the same man.

No, I live in a family of downloaders -.-

Ouch, that would be a tight fit :S

Yep, 80gig a month and we're still going over :S

oh god what i would do for 80gb a month
i got a **** 10gb a month and thats the max i can get on Next G Wireless

We are not asking the GameOps to do everything nor are we complaining about taking demo's, your completely misunderstanding the point we are trying to send. We are asking for GameOps to participate in the games that they are assigned to, whether its on the servers or forum, it really doesn't matter as long as they are not neglecting the job that was assigned to them.

Yes, i understand that being a GameOp is a voluntary job, they have social lives and family, but if they simply do not have the time to be a GameOp due to these things, then they should not be GameOps in the first place.



I wasn't complaining about the time it took to have my incident report reviewed as it was reviewed not long after i submitted the incident report, i even PM'ed a GameOp as to why the player wasn't banned for committing a serious offence and even posted a thread about it, but apparently, my posts were too long so he didn't bother reading them, is that what good GameOp conduct is? What i was complaining about was the fact that the GameOp that did review it, do not follow the T&C that they are bound by. Are these the GameOps that we want helping our community? No.

Even the slightest hint of a GameOp participating with the community on css would be greatly appreciated as i only find that you, square enix, are the only GameOp that seems to exist. We are not asking for much at all but the reason GameOps exist is to help the community, help maintain servers, forums and anything related to the game that they are assigned to. If they are not doing there job, then why are they GameOps?

Alot of the community feels this way, i am not the only one. They just don't participate with the community on the forums, which is why this thread, http://www.gamearena.com.au/forums/coun ... hp/5042767, never got answered even after we got some regulars to register to the forums so they can post there opinions, as this is what forums are for, discussion.

As far as i can see, this is a no win situation. GameOps won't participate in the games that they are assigned to regardless of what the community needs and wants and what job they are assigned to do, and members of the community will only be shut down for sharing there opinions when more GameOp participation is clearly needed.

The only way i am going to get a real response is to contact support as it seems that i am wasting my time with GameOps that simply will not listen.

I thought the gameops went to have dinner and met with their biographers while the players in CounterStrike got burnt

I'm with NextG but we only got 3GB, sucks aye...

Polle - you are the world's biggest Troll. You are a jet at it I swear! Never once have I seen a post you have made that wasn't just a sarcastic stab at someone/something!
Keep up the good work.

And +1 for Crona, and -1 for boobs who can't bloody read what the freakin point of this thread...LOOKING AT YOU SARPZY...stooge.

Since this thread related directly to the one which never received a response from me a couple of MONTHS ago I am going to continue my point here. I am not sure who you have been asking Enix, but I am sure if it were investigated with just a little bit of time, you would see that the maps that I listed in the other thread clear out a server faster than a fart in an elevator. It usually means the server has 3-4 die-hard-I-dont-care-what-map-is-on noobs who are just happy their parents are letting them use the PC again. When the map time limit expires (45 freakin minutes... wtf??!), it finally rotates and fills up again.

The vast, VAST majority of the REGULAR players (read: people with half a clue) strongly dislike the maps I listed. That is a fact that I will stand by. Whoever you have asked, if you indeed have asked anyone like you say, has not given you a true indication of the situation.

Besides all that, you can't tell me that those maps don't suck balls and screw up the game. You have played them.

Log a job...

lol you call me a stooge? even using your phrase, for example the maps, you say they will clear out a server faster then a fart on a elevator, lets break that down shall we, a fart is easy to so is crying but getting the elevator to stop so you can get the **** off aint, which is GA, for example if you get on at 1 and wanna get off on 20 and someone farts in which case you cry and want off then you have to wait till the elevator stops, so the elevator decides when you get off mofo, same as GA, if they think the maps are fine, then the maps are fine

Your all having the biggest cry fest when you got no right to, you dont pay for the friggin servers, there owned by GA (telstra) in which case can do what they friggin want, THAT IS MY POINT, if your top stupid to read and understand what ive been saying then you are a stooge

yeah ok i understand where yous are coming from, it aint fair because the servers are out there for local players like us to have fun on, if it aint getting maintained or admined then it aint as much fun as we would like, but face it fellers, it aint up to us and 8/10 a couple of voices will prob mean jack **** to the huge amount of traffic that goes through thoughs servers now

good luck to your endeavor but seriously give it abit of a break, especially the GameOps, ffs they have a life, there not just here to serve you

Wow. Trying to make sense of your almost incoherant ramblings makes me want to drink heavily. You dedicated a whole paragraph to my joke about the elevator? Holy **** mate...

Since we do indeed pay for an internet service through the provider, I would say that yes, we do have a right to voice an opinion. Also, since the prupose of this forum is to do so, I would also dare say that we are encouraged to do so.

What is your purpose in posting anyway? You are offering absolutely nothing to the conversation. If brown nosing GameOps is your plan, you're pretty **** at that too.

I reiterate again, the maps preciously mentioned are crap. They should be changed.

Also, calling other people "top stupid" (I assume you meant 'too' stupid) and 'mofos' while simultaneously doing your best to butcher the english language beyond belief is ironic don't you think?

LEARN. TO. SPEAK. ENGLISH.

I swear most new immigrants have a better grasp of the language and it's not native to them.

Just an update, I've sent a support request for more GameOps to be assigned due to the absence of the current GameOps. This way i can get a proper answer from a GA administrator.

Also Sarpzy, please keep your personal attacks and abuse to yourself. Your post has been reported. If it keeps up, you will possibility lose your ability to post. Your first two posts were not related to the topic and your ability to constantly swear on a public forum only shows the maturity of some GA community members.

If you do not have any input towards the topic at hand, please, do not say anything. If your against what we are asking for, that is fine, but if your are only posting your opinions to cause trouble, then i suggest you go elsewhere.

I'm not cool enough to swear on the internet, hence the reason i don't see the point in doing so. If posts by members on the forums upset you, i suggest reporting it.

As for being a wannabe GameOp, no, hence the reason i am requesting more GameOp's be assigned that are active on the CS:S forums and servers, which i am currently not.

Your first two posts were to do with sending demos/screenshots, which none of us have a problem with and was not related to the thread creator's post, which is why i said they were off topic.

As i said, i submitted a support request on this related topic which explained the situation of inactive GameOp's, as here, i only received childish remarks and in which my questions have either been avoided or unanswered.

If you haven't noticed, only one GameOp has been active in the last 7 days to reply to this thread. As i previous said, if they simply do not have the time to be GameOps, then they simply should not be GameOps.

to make crossfire happy, If something is to be changed, then I suggest Gamearena remove the inactive GameOps and replace them with active ones if Crona's witness accounts are true.

To keep the cycle going, there needs to be fresh blood who can balance their social life and their gaming responsibilities. Yes Ops don't get paid, and they have lives but like everything, they wont stay forever, or simply get tired of it.

Sounds good to me.

Then they will probably realise that those maps suck and they need to be changed too lol!

And what a shame I didn't log on in time to see another crazed cat-lady type post from the most eloquest Sarpzy before his post was bombed.

Yes Sarpzy, I am the ****. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Perhaps it's loads of swearing.

Yes that does sound good, I would like more active GameOps for css too. However, the problem isn't the lack of people applying for a GameOp position, it's the lack of people applying who are qualified to be a GameOp. My advice to those of you applying for a GameOp position, or thinking of applying is to make sure you read the application questions and answer them to the best of you ability. If you can't answer a question correctly about how to use rcon on a server, then you should not apply. Also, if you haven't had previous server admin experience, it's probably not a good idea to apply either, you're very unlikely to get a position if you haven't had the experience. For those of you who want to apply but have no or limited knowledge of rcon or admin experience, my advice to you is to study up and learn the commands. There's a link below which came from one of whisper's tutorial threads (all credit for this goes to him) about how to use rcon/admin commands, I'm amazed sometimes at how many people get it wrong in their applications. It's here for those who are interested.

http://whisper.ausgamers.com/wiki/index ... N_Commands

For those of you wanting to apply for a GameOp position, familiarise yourself with those commands. Hope this helps.

what about those that applied that have rcon experience?

They will have to wait and see if their application is accepted.

and my apologizes for having a bite, not normally my style, i was a bit of a hypocrite by biting back after telling people not to bite back to trolls

my apologizes CronA
my apologizes Crossfire
and also the rest of the community that had to read my dribble

wont happen again
back on track

It's OK

Update from Support:

Win for Crona! (And CSS'ers everywhere)

And accepted Sarpzy. Love not war hey.

yeah i dont know why i did that, its really not like me
but yes love not war lol

Good work CronA, hopefully some action is actually taken.

Square is the ONLY GameOp I have ever seen in a server, and almost every time (bar once) I request a GameOp on the Arena, they are usually afk.

So cheers to Square.

I never play with my gameop name. people who have been around long enough will know my alias in game.

He is the one getting accused of hacking all the time:D

I'm well out of form too !

This thread hasn't gone unnoticed and certainly not unheeded by us admins.

We've heard what is being said, and are taking steps right now to make some much needed changes which we hope will breathe some new life into the community.

Not a small part of that will be renewed GameOps activity, interaction and communication.

sounds awesome

Good to hear it's just a shame it has taken this long for things to finally happen. Also it's been over a year since i posted my admin application and i have never recieved a response any ideas?