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When playing in gun game servers I'll kill someone in an opening round, only to be killed by that player 5 seconds later!!!
What's happening is, I kill them, they disconnect and then someone reconnect and re-spawn, effectively allowing them to play twice in the same round.
Surely thats a glitch of some form and as such exploiting them is against the rules? Can the admins please look into making it so you can't disconnect and immediatley reconnect? Maybe need to have a 10-15 second delay or something to stop this from occuring as thats clearly an unfair advantage.
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| Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:58 pm |
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Joined: 28th March, 2009 Posts: 175
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Morphio, what they do is type "retry" into console, allowing them to connect back to the server while spawning time is still active. It isn't an exploit nor a glitch and is not against the rules. What the gungame servers need is a function where players cannot play the same round twice and get instantly slayed when they reconnect to the server.
I wouldn't complain too much on other people's gameplay as you yourself break rules constantly and if you don't know what i'm talking about, i'll give you some examples.
1.10 Falsely accuse other players of cheating for the purpose of discrediting an innocent player.
In this case, i have been accused by you for hacking countless times and yet you continue to do so instead of taking a demo and submitting a incident report
1.13 Engage in general disruptive behaviour that affects the ability of other players' to enjoy a game.
In this case, camping every map, every round which is disruptive gameplay, expecially when you block other players because you want to camp in a certain spot (stairs etc.)
Before looking at ways to get other players banned, fix your own before you receive a ban yourself.
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| Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:19 am |
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Joined: 17th July, 2004 Posts: 64
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Lol Crona, EVERYONE accuses you of hacking, maybe I just touched a nerve cos we're actually onto something - haven't seen you around for a while...
As for camping - it's not against the rules seemingly. I can be asked by a GameOp not to do it and if I don't comply I can be kicked but camping isn't against the rules so bl there...
As for blocking - you are referring to sandwich_arena. To that I say HTFU and go use the other stairs  That spot provides a great place to sit and pick of people as they run across the map, just goes to show when I've won that map so many times. I think the majority of you are just angry that I can win maps by camping it up which is why you all arc up at me so much. Get over it and accept that its part of the game or as the saying goes - if you can't beat em - join em!
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| Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:12 am |
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Joined: 28th March, 2009 Posts: 175
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As i've stated the rules above, you now have acknowledgement of the rules that you have broken and if you continue to break them, i have no problem sitting in spec and taking a demo if players are not enjoying the game due to your failure to comprehend the rules. Simple and effective.
As for your original post, there is nothing wrong with using the "retry" command as it is not a glitch or exploit but i do suggest that a GameOp does add a function where a player cannot play the same round twice as it does cause some hassle on the servers.
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| Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:23 pm |
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Joined: 17th May, 2009 Posts: 38
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lol morph, crona hax? u sir are and idiot  it is called skill mate being part of a gaming clan that has a server that they practice on OFTEN. working strats knowing when an enemy is coming exactly where there head will be when you first see them using a good pair of headphones listing to even the faintest sounds like kicking a piece of trash coming through an already broken window falling from a ledge and hearing the impact they make with the floor and one of the most improtant ones using the radar if he is looking west and a team mate gets killed to the east of the radar common sense will make you turn the other way and wait just being smart will cause alot of the "omg ur a haxz0r! admin plox ban teh n00b!" calls will stop yes there are a few bs shots lord knows i have had my fair share buts thats just bad luck not much you can do suck it up bro and take a chill pill 
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Quote: lol morph, crona hax? u sir are and idiot  it is called skill mate being part of a gaming clan that has a server that they practice on OFTEN. working strats knowing when an enemy is coming exactly where there head will be when you first see them using a good pair of headphones listing to even the faintest sounds like kicking a piece of trash coming through an already broken window falling from a ledge and hearing the impact they make with the floor and one of the most improtant ones using the radar if he is looking west and a team mate gets killed to the east of the radar common sense will make you turn the other way and wait just being smart will cause alot of the "omg ur a haxz0r! admin plox ban teh n00b!" calls will stop yes there are a few bs shots lord knows i have had my fair share buts thats just bad luck not much you can do suck it up bro and take a chill pill
Thankyou for making my eyes bleed before bc2 is released
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| Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:02 am |
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Wow, the thorns are extra sharp today..
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| Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:05 pm |
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Joined: 26th December, 2007 Posts: 932
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The fact for less than a pack of ciggies a week you can play, get banned and rebuy the game every fortnight. Most hacked game eva, why do you think so many people play, they keep getting away with it.
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| Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:13 pm |
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I don't really care if people think i hack or not. Its either learn to demo or be demo'ed and deal with a 2 week holiday as its against the rules to falsely accuse players of hacking.
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| Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:24 pm |
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Joined: 17th July, 2004 Posts: 64
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Someone needs their dummy back....
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| Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:10 am |
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Joined: 27th February, 2008 Posts: 36
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morphio always camps, disrupts gameplay, creates countless hassles over the servers.
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| Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:51 pm |
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Joined: 17th July, 2004 Posts: 64
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Thats where you're wrong. I don't disrupt gameplay at all.
I camp around but really how much of an issue does that cause. It's not as if I'm camping around, unable to be found for 4-5 minutes per round, it's 20-30 seconds at the MAX.
Everyone else who likes to harass me, ghost me, abuse me are the ones disrupting gameplay and causing hassles, not me. Then to add ontop of that a GameOp who won't even take any action at all where I submit an incident report of another player calling me '****', posted clear as day on a screenshot but 'there is insufficient evidence to convict this player'
What a fking joke!
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| Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:14 pm |
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Joined: 17th July, 2004 Posts: 64
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Oh and for the record, I rarely have a word to say when I go into a server, that is until SOMEONE ABUSES ME. Then I like to fly off the handle and defend myself.
Now you can sit there and tell me I'm lying and full of **** etc etc etc but thats the truth of the matter. For proof, get yourself into a server when I'm on and observe, see who fires the first shots at who. Guaranteed its not me...
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| Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:17 pm |
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Joined: 27th February, 2008 Posts: 36
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I've got a screenshot of you spewing abuse too buddy, I'd keep quiet hypocrite. Don't act innocent in my presence.
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| Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:53 pm |
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Quote: I've got a screenshot of you spewing abuse too buddy, I'd keep quiet hypocrite. Don't act innocent in my presence.
Seems you're incapable of reading the post I wrote. I said I like to retaliate when people abuse me and why shouldn't I. The way I see it I have every right to, if people are going to start abusing me in a game and a GameOP refuses to do anything about it then as far as I see its open slater to whoever wants it.
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| Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:07 pm |
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If you can't take the heat, leave the server buddy. That does not permit you to break the rules in retaliation.
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| Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:26 pm |
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Where earlier you explained that you retaliate in what can be described as fighting fire with fire. You continue to break the rules on this very forum without anything prompting you to. These profanities MUST stop!
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| Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:52 pm |
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Not sure how I'm breaking the rules here but ok Mr. Moderator....
In any case its as I said, people stop abusing me and I stop abusing people. As long as the gameops remain useless in doing anything to stop the abuse then I won't hesitate to let loose at someone who has a crack at me.
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| Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:14 am |
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Joined: 17th May, 2009 Posts: 38
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hahaha all im hearing is grrr grrr grrr grrr take a chill pill morpho the must button is there for a reason cuz
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| Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:53 pm |
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So we've established it is not a glitch, and that some players are good, and some camp bad.
Camping will only be banned if you are blocking.
Enough with the personal abuse k? Or we'll bring out some forum ban time.
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| Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:45 pm |
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Joined: 17th July, 2004 Posts: 64
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Yay, finally a GameOp capable of doing his job. Would be nice to see you around the servers MashY, if they ever get fixed!
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| Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:48 am |
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Quote: Camping will only be banned if you are blocking.
Please take a note of this morphio, this does include sandwich arena where you do block the stairs.
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| Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:31 am |
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Quote: Quote: Camping will only be banned if you are blocking. Please take a note of this morphio, this does include sandwich arena where you do block the stairs.
Which would be fine if I was blocking. However there is another set of stairs - use them!
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| Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:53 pm |
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Yes, there are two sets of stairs in which you block one of them. This is still considered blocking. Both sets of stairs should be accessible.
Just for the record, i asked squareenix about it.

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| Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:34 pm |
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I really don't care what he has to say to be quite honest Crona. To me he lost his integrity as a GameOp the day he refused to do anything about the complaints I lodged.
For the record - I was called a '****' by another game. Screenshotted that, sent it in along with SteamID and was sent back 'not enough evidence to convict player' - Absolutely pathetic.......
To be frank you, and everyone else who thinks they have a problem with the way I play need to get off your high horses and just get on with the game. It's not like I play every second of the day or even every night, it's usually a few hours here or there on weekends IF I'm not doing anything. As it stands I didn't play at all this weekend just gone and probably wont the coming weekend either. I have a life which procludes nerdy little gamers whinging at me about camping.
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| Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:22 pm |
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Well either way, i'm going to take a demo if you do it. If you get banned, thats not my problem. I've stated what can happen and now i'll leave the choice up to you.
If GameOp's aren't doing anything about your complaints, have you even considered lodging a support ticket to a head admin with the ticket number you get after lodging an incident report? Didn't think so.
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| Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:30 pm |
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Joined: 21st December, 2008 Posts: 117
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You may be banned for camping if the following situations arise. You are blocking other players, regardless of it there is another route on the map. If it breaks any of the following T&Cs.
1.12 Fail to adhere to a Game Operator's or Administrator's reasonable request.
Action we may take:
1. First two times: warnings to immediately cease the prohibited behaviour.
2. Third time: 2 week ban from GameArena.
3. Any further breaches may result in a permanent ban from GameArena.
1.13 Engage in general disruptive behaviour that affects the ability of other players' to enjoy a game. This includes interrupting or otherwise interfering with the ability of another player, Game Operator, GameArena staff member or administrator to participate in GameArena.
Action we may take:
1. First two times: warnings to immediately cease the prohibited behaviour.
2. Third time: 2 week ban from all GameArena.
3. Any further breaches may result in a permanent ban from GameArena.
1.14 Engage in offensive or inappropriate behaviour generally. This includes engaging in conduct or action or use of language or symbols which GameArena, in its absolute discretion, considers to be inappropriate or offensive.
Action we may take:
1. First two times: warnings to immediately cease the prohibited behaviour.
2. Third time: 2 week ban from all GameArena.
3. Any further breaches may result in a permanent ban from GameArena.
1.17 Fail to reasonably attempt to complete the objective in games that are objective based (gameplay moderation)
Action we may take:
1. First two times: warnings to immediately cease the prohibited behaviour.
2. Third time: 2-week ban from GameArena.
3. Any further breaches may result in a permanent ban from GameArena.
All of those T&Cs can be broken by your camping and blocking.
As for your incident reports, it appears there was not enough evidence to warrant a ban. I suggest getting more before lodging any reports.
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| Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:29 am |
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It's not a glitch; I just headshot that much
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| Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:40 pm |
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Quote: As for your incident reports, it appears there was not enough evidence to warrant a ban. I suggest getting more before lodging any reports.
So another player calling me a '****' is not enough evidence to have a player banned, even just for 24 hours?
It's a pity I don't still have that ticket number, I might just of lodged it to the admins, along with the comment you sent back. Then we'll see how what sort of action they take against you for failing to do your job properly....
All of the T&C's can also be broken by all the abuse I cop from other players but do you do anything about it? No! But you're more than happy to com e in and kick/ban me for camping. Double standards? Yep cool! By failing to take action in one area and then doing so in another area you're not fulfilling your role as a GameOp.
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| Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:42 am |
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Joined: 17th July, 2004 Posts: 64
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Tell ya what, from now on, I'll demo every second I play and submit every single incident that even slightly breaks any of the T&C's. Enix you can either do your job and warn/start banning people, the rules make it pretty obvious what is a breach of T&C and what isnt.
Or I can go over your head and lodge a support request with GameArena, documenting every single ticket number that you failed to take any action on for clear breaches of T&C's.
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| Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:54 am |
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I giggled. Morphio, if someone is abusing you, take a demo and a screenshot with status in console. Just one person saying one word will not be enough to warrant a ban. It has to be constant abuse and don't abuse back when people are telling you off. Fighting fire with fire only makes you as bad as them. Ignore them and take a demo, its really quite simple. Also GameOp's don't do 24hour bans as far as i know, its usually a two week ban which is why you need enough evidence to warrant that ban.
Square Enix is not the only CSS GameOp, so he is most likely not reviewing everyone of your incident reports as other GameOps have the same job as he does. I'm actually quite thankful because its rare to have a GameOp on the gungame servers quite frequently.
Also, take in consideration on how you talk to GameOp's. Abusing them on the forums will not get you anywhere, but make matters worse, and you could cop a ban for yourself if your not careful.
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| Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:16 pm |
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Quote: I giggled. Morphio, if someone is abusing you, take a demo and a screenshot with status in console. Just one person saying one word will not be enough to warrant a ban. It has to be constant abuse and don't abuse back when people are telling you off. Fighting fire with fire only makes you as bad as them. Ignore them and take a demo, its really quite simple. Also GameOp's don't do 24hour bans as far as i know, its usually a two week ban which is why you need enough evidence to warrant that ban. So basically what you're saying is someone calling me a **** is not enough to warrant being banned, they'd have to call me that twice maybe three times? That's ridiculous, the rules, which you posted yourself, clearly state that abusing players won't be tolerated. I screenshotted it, provided the shot along with the SID to the GameOp who failed to do anything about it hence fails at his job. THERE IS NO GREY AREA HERE, it's a black and white scenario and the result should be definitive, a ban imposed on the player calling me a ****. Simple... Quote: Square Enix is not the only CSS GameOp
Thank christ for this...it's bad enough that he won't do anything about the people abusing me. Infact I fail to see how he's even a GameOp at all if he won't do the job he's been assigned to do, sigh. Hopefully one of the others might rock up when I'm playing and see the sorta crap I put up with. Maybe then something might get done.
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| Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:42 pm |
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Morphio dropped the C bomb more than once in his previous post. Ban for abusive behaviour please!
Or just ban because he is a hypocritical self-absorbed troublemaker. Both work for me (and just about everyone else who has had the 'pleasure' of being in a server with him lol)
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| Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:51 pm |
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why would you bring yourself down to the level of trolls?
its a game to be enjoyed, not to wait for someone to troll you and then you fly off the handles and break the rules yourself, as ive said before, its not always up to the GameOp, take a SS and report it, take a demo and report it, then at which point a GameOp will investigate it and it will be up to the GameOp whether to push a punishment, if you fly off the handle and break the rules YOU could be the one to be punished as well as the person who started it, dont waste your breath or typing on raging back at them, ignore them or if its bad enough report it, its that simple
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