i just bought WWE Raw VS Smackdown 2010 on PS2 & was amazed it doesnt support widescreen, how is this even possible? there is simply no excuse for this, i mean GoldenEye on N64 (1997) supported full 16:9 widescreen & i dont think widescreen TV's were even out in this country then

how the hell is this still even a problem? (& it is on every platform) what is it going to take for these stupid lazy game makers to start providing us with something so simple & obvious

& while im at it WTF!!! is the deal with PC games not having custom button setups for controlpads these days, i just had to go & buy 4 stupid XBOX360 controlpads "for windows" just so my mates & I could play that stupid new cricket game & i have noticed lately that almost every game requires this controlpad otherwise the button mappings are up to **** (and cant be changed) if PC gaming really is dying its no bloody wonder

wake the F... up to yourselves EA, Midway, CodeMasters, LucasArts, RockStar & all the other stupid companies that have been screwing us around with this BS for far to long

Widescreen support is an essential part of the game.

Found the problem.

I lold.

People who play cricket video games should be shot.

I'm calling Occam's razor and suggesting that remapping is possible, but you are just too damn retarded.

hey they already look roided out enough without being stretched on top of that


right before you found a muff where your **** should be

it has widescreen on PS3 & 100s of PS2 games have widescreen, im not gonna go buy a lemon of a console just so i can see shawn michaels nipples

& your wrong Gir (but that wouldnt be the first time) so many games these days are direct ports of the xbox360 which means unless you want to spend half a month hex editing the .exe file (there r 3 .dll's that also come in the directory & NOTHING ELSE) it is more trouble than it is worth

btw my atari doesnt do widescreen either whats up with that

Lol serenity now, serenity now !

well thats because your a stupid console nob jockey, my atari 2600 works perfect in 1360x768 (emulated on PC of course) most atari games were written in widescreen or didnt you notice the black bars on the top & bottom of your TV?

do yourself a favour & step on your wifes sun glasses, queer *** dork

*grabs popcorn*

ive got about 6 PS2 games & i dont own a 360, Wii or PS3 so sit down before you hurt yourself & sorry about the sunglasses remark, i just realised your in Victoria (which kind of explains why you find this so entertaining)

you can quote me on that one (seeing as that is all your capable of doing)

sorry chaos, this wont be one of my grand performances as i have to get up early for work in the morning, plus i think ive sent his brain into overload trying to turn those last words around into a "funny" quote

then again he is probably scurrying through the forums trying to dig up some dirt, have fun with that corey ill check back tomorrow so you can have your little copy & paste project graded

Name one that people care about (A.K.A not a cricket or wrestling game)

Grand Theft Auto 4

That is wrong on SOOOOOO many levels.

...is released under the "Games for Windows" brand and thus uses GFWL and the 360 controller.

seeing as those comments make absolutely no sense, obviously i have created some confusion

i was listing to Gir a "popular" PC game where the controlpad setup is a direct port of the xbox360, meaning it doesnt have a custom controlpad key binding option & will only have the correct key bindings if you use the xbox360 controlpad for windows (or a standard 360 controlpad with a usb adaptor)

the reason i have such a problem with this is because most people already own a perfectly good "dual thumbstick 12 button controlpad" that would work fine on these games if only the makers of the games had the foresight to include a feature in the options menu that has been around since the days of Wolfenstein 3D (1992)

& dont get me wrong, im all for a Universal controlpad for the PC (about bloody time infact) but not when Logitech is making us buy theirs for EA games & Microsoft is doing the same with CodeMasters & Rockstar games (some smaller compaines are also doing the same) as i have said before, if PC gaming really is dying its no bloody wonder with **** like this going on

if your wondering why all this is such a big deal to me, i have 6 random brand controlpads, 8 PS2-PC adaptors, 4 Logitech Dualshock 2 controlpads & now 4 XBOX360 controlpads for windows all because since 2005 our favourate game franchises have slowly but surely stopped including a custom bindings option

all we want is to play games from the last 20 years in HD (on a big widescreen TV) at a steady 30fps or 60hz (something consoles are incapable of providing) but with only requiring a single brand of controlpad for all our games, is this too much to ask?

Instead of spending GOD knows how much money on 57 different control pads, why not just use that money and buy yourself a 360 or a PS3, which in turn, fixes your Widescreen issue.

And while you are at it, if you want to play multi player games on the one system (ie, not online) then the PC probably isn't the best option for you and your mates...

It SOUNDS like you really want to be a console gamer, but for some reason you wont buy a next gen console, and you think the game developers have a problem?

he prob traded his money for crack with those statements

obvioudly you didnt read my post properly


about 7 years ago i did want to be a "console gamer" for the ease of it all, so i went & bought a PS2 which i was rather happy with until i got Unreal Tournament, 4 player split screen offered a megre average of 10 FPS assuming it was just a badly ported game from PC i decided to try Soldier of Fortune but it offered about 4 FPS (4 player split screen) Quake 3 wasnt much better, after Sony offered me nothing more (over the phone) then "well that shouldnt be happening" i tried it on 3 other PS2's with the same result

i went to EB & asked the sales **** if there were any shooter games for PS2 that actually "worked" 4 player, he handed me Time Splitters 2 (lets just say it deserves its 10/10) but this still didnt fill the void of so many other games not running properly, GTA VC & GTA SA looked horrible & the draw distance woeful

one of my mates got a new videocard for his PC that had an Svideo plug, so we tried it on the TV with GTA VC & the difference was out of this world, so that was it i went & got one too, i have bought a few exclusive titles for my PS2 since but nothing that was already on PC

all was good it was a happy time, then Cricket 2005 came out & suddenly they had taken away a very important option that had been in all the cricket games before it (custom button mapping) since it was a terrible game anyway i didnt really care, but then Rugby League 2 came out & it was the same deal & then almost every new game we would get would be the same, it has gotten to the stage now where almost every game doesnt have custom button mappings for the controlpad

& why not just get a PS3 or Xbox360? well i have seen the PS3 in action & it appears to have the exact same FPS problem i experienced on the PS2 (i can only assume the xbox suffers the same fate) when i said a steady 30FPS i really meant a constant 30FPS (cause that is what the PC offers) plus i cant play SEGA Megadrive, Master System, NES SNES N64 or GBA, PSX, Atari, Arcade, DOS or the last 10 or years worth of Windows games on one of those (where as the PC can)

if your smart enough the PC offers way more than any console could ever hope to, but this whole controlpad thing is just arogance mixed with greed, i got a free xbox360 with my phone & it should be arriving today, so it might offer something worth taking a look at (wont be holding my breath)

i like all this talk of muffs,**** and little girls.

Getting virtually any game to play in 4 person split screen is going to make your system take a hit,.. A smart developer will downgrade the graphics so the game still runs smoothly, a dumb one will not, so the framerate takes the hit..
This is NOT an issue with the console itself, it is the fault of the game developer, pretty obvious one I would have thought.

I have a PS3 and have had a 360, and i can honestly say I have not noticed any real framerate issues to speak of, although admittedly, i have not played any games in 4 player split screen.

However, there are a few VERY poor ports of games on the PS3, Orange Box is apparently terrible, with very bad frame rates even in 1 player mode.. Again, this is not the issue with the system, but the developer.

My advice is to use the internet for reviews and advise on games before you go and buy them. You will soon find that the internet can be a very useful information tool and is not just for forum whinging and ****..

it wasnt as good back in 2002 as it is today, & the reviews didnt include things such as average FPS as they do today (many still dont include a benchmark for 4 player split screen)

but anyway i have my xbox360 & i must say it doesnt come with much, a wireless network adaptor must be purchased separately along with a HDD if you want one (i think it has a built in HDD of 225mb) it came with 1 wireless controlpad which isnt an issue seeing as i have 4 xbox controllers for windows, unfortunately though it doesnt come with any controlpad ports (wtf) & only 2 usb ports which work fine with the controllers i have but that doesnt really help if you want to play 4 player games, not to mention the wireless controlpad came with 2 AA batteries which im assuming wont charge up if it is connected by its wire (which i might add also has to be purchased separately) lol good old microsoft

ill be going to the video shop tonight to get a few games to test it on, if anyone has some suggestions for 2 or 3 player games that are worth a look at, feel free to advise me

what is this i dont even

Halo 3 & Modern Warfare 2.
Two best shooters out there at the moment imo.

maybe you should try thinking for yourself instead of simply pasting my own comments back to me, keep trying though biggles i can feel your close to winning one of these troll sessions, although i couldnt help but notice the jargon you have posted in the topic below so maybe im giving you a little to much credit

& thanx Angels Dragon, i shall check them out

ahahaha i love that pic

Biggles get **** banned! you **** retard.

Back in the day of N64 Goldeneye/Perfect Dark was graphics nerfed for MP. I never thought 4player MP would be any better 10yrs later and it isnt. You should get a bunch of X-Box's and play LAN if PC controller support is going down hill.



Godfather 2
Force Unleashed
Prototype
and Dragon Age all suffered bad frame rates and poor stability on my PS3.

I actually thought the PS3 got the better version of Dragon Age?.. A little glitchy at times, but overall better looking? Actually, the trade off was a better looking game for slightly less stable framerate -

From Wiki - In the opinion of GameSpot, the PlayStation 3 version features higher-quality textures than those on the Xbox 360, better color saturation, smoother facial animations, and shorter load times. On the Xbox 360, textures are highly compressed and colors are washed out, though the upside is that this version maintains a smoother frame rate than on the PlayStation 3. Minor visual glitches, such as corpses that disappear and reappear, are more common on the PlayStation 3"


King Lucas, for your 360 controllers, if you want to do away with the batteries you will need to buy some battery packs (play and charge kits).. No one really uses the wired controllers anymore.. If you want 4 player, grab another wireless and use 2 wireless & 2 wired.


As AD said, Halo3 is a good pick up, should be pretty cheap now too.. Halo always plays a good game of multiplayer.

The one thing I don't like about split screen in the "widescreen" era is that most games now split the screen (in 2 players) vertically instead of horizontally which is really annoying and limits your playing view, as being able to see more screen above your character, is not nearly as valuable as seeing more screen to the sides of your character.

I don't know about the other bits in there but I know the load time business is not true. I haven't heard of a single PS3 version of a game that loads faster than its X360 counterpart. Even with the mandatory install. There have been a few brawls on this site about that.

I don't think it should be that hard to create custom controls. For gods sake, its another menu screen, and changing a couple of freaking variables. I can think of 3 ways to do it in pygame for a star (Not that making menus is very easy in pygame, AFAIK, but i digress.)

turns out i can play 4 player on the 360 as there is an extra USB port next to the power cable at the back of the console (dont know how i missed it) & halo 3 is not bad at all (flawless framerate), i will have to checkout that battery pack thing cause i sure as hell dont want to be buying new batteries week in week out


that was my whole point, it isnt hard, (& has been a feature in PC games since the 80s) its just a scam/rort or what ever you want to call it so that people are forced to buy a controlpad that they shouldnt really need

when i first got my Logitech controllers i thought all would be solved forever because they came with a 3rd party program called "Logitech Profiler" which allowed you to change the button assignments with any game & even assign keyboard commands (for games that had no controlpad support) but unfortunately my joy was short lived as i realised the limitations of this program, when using custom button assignments it doesnt allow you to hit more than 2 buttons at a time when playing (god knows why) but this pretty much makes it useless for almost any game

GTFO!

http://download.cnet.com/SwitchBlade/30 ... tml?tag=bc

maybe this will help

you do realise your xbox 360 is the cheapest model available? Thats why it came without a hard drive or many cables.

Wow.

Mega bump.

lol say that to an Indian.

I LIIKE WILLYS

What's meta wiki? "META"?