Revised 24/2/09

Battlefield is a great team based game that has enormous scope for the average player. The gameplay on a public server can be really rewarding if you keep a few things in mind:

First of all, you must read and understand the http://games.bigpond.com/help/tandc.php " target="_blank">Terms & Conditions and especially the Code of Conduct listed there.

GameOps patrol the servers at random to help keep the servers a fun place to play. They are asked to watch out for poor behaviour from players and take the necessary action if a problem persists. But GameOps can't be in every server for every hour of the day.
You can report poor behaviour by taking screenshots that clearly show the extent of the problem and who is involved. Then fill out an http://www.gamearena.com.au/help/incident/" target="_blank">incident report and send in the details to us. We'll review it and take appropriate action.
But please read our guide on how to lodge a successful incident report, before submitting your incident report.


Base Camping - BF1942 servers
While base camping is really lame, it is not against the rules on GameArena BF1942 servers.

Base Camping - Desert Combat server
Base camping is not permitted on the GameArena Desert Combat server.
Vehicles are not allowed to enter an enemies uncapable base.
You are not allowed to fire into the enemies uncapable base unless someone is firing out of the enemies uncapabale base.

Team Killing
Do not intentionally harm team mates.
Do not intentionally destroy team resources, unless the enemy is after them.
Purposefully harming team mates, and team resources (TK’ing) is a kickable offence.
If it was an accident, then apologise immediately to let them know it wasn’t on purpose.


Behaviour
Always work with a team mate, even if you have never met him/her before. Two against one enemy has obvious advantages.

Help your team mate by being organised, work out a goal in-game and go after it together. No plan of attack, means no attack. Don't run around senselessly.
If you are so new that you don't know what to do, then defend a flag. Stay around the same captured flag for the whole map and let the enemy come to you. You'll be surprised how quickly you'll be engaging enemies as they swarm in to take your flag, and if you're entrenched with a tank or other deployable resources (mines, c4) then you'll have the advantage. This is called being really useful

Don't spam the global chat with useless information. Keep your messages to the game at hand. Excessive global chat can lead to you being kicked from the server.

Don't spam the in game announcements either. Once or twice is sufficient to convey your message. Excessive chat spam can lead to you being kicked from the server.

Don't abuse anyone on the servers, they'll abuse you back, and you won't enjoy the game. Swearing is tolerated, but not when it's offensive or gratuitous or abusive. Abuse will lead to you being kicked, and banned from GA servers.

Don't swap to the winning team unless the team numbers are out of whack. Auto swapping by the server will correct team imbalances.

Spawn & Flag camping is acceptable in Battlefield 1942; that’s how wars are won! However, like anything else in the game, if a spawn camper is being obstructive then a GameOp may ask him/her to stop.

Camping an enemy flag without the intent of capturing it, but to frag the enemy, is considered bad form by many, and not so by others. It’s easy to argue that Stat Whores are people who do that sort of thing and will also argue that you’re contributing to the ticket count and tying up enemy resources by doing it. Either way, the aim of the game is still to capture and hold the flag.

Grenade spamming from an ammo box is acceptable, lame, but acceptable. Some players are very adept at it but they don’t last too long if you and a team mate do something about him!



Resources
Do not "camp" on a runway waiting for a plane, same for tanks. Use your good sense here. You are doing nothing constructive waiting for a plane, so your team is suffering.

Do not drive off in someone else's tank (or other vehicle). This happens mostly when they are repairing it. However, if they have abandoned their tank, then sure, go for it.

Artillery (Arty) is a ONE person vehicle. You cannot shoot accurately whilst it’s moving, and besides, some one may have driven it a long way to this very spot to use the arty themselves. And having you jump in and either drive it off, or take over the gun, is very rude.

Do not remove team mines. They were laid there for a reason. If they are in your way, and you cannot go around them, remove it/them, and then put it/them back where they were.

If you’re an engineer, and it’s safe to do so, help repair a team mates vehicle, AAA, etc.

Don’t waste a jeep or tank to drive yourself over to a plane if other people can use it.


Tips
Choose engineer class when flying planes and driving tanks. You can jump out and repair your vehicle. Err, land the pane first tho. Also you can quickly drop mines and c4 in enemy flags.

Use the Scout class to spot for Arty. Choose a safe spot and one that is useful to the guy with the Arty.

Give team mates a lift. Don’t ignore their pleas of “I need a ride”.

Don’t run down the centre of a road, take a flank so you’re hidden from view; you can sneak around to the back of the enemy and cap a rear flag

Sneak up behind an enemy and use your knife; it’s so rewarding

Make another one for DC.

1) Always work on your own and be totally oblivious to other team mates.
2) You may notice poles sticking up from the ground sometimes with what looks to be cloth on it. These should be ignored as they in no way to your teams successs (yes teams can win rounds).
3) Your personal score overides your teams ticket score.
4) The only vehicles worth using are the planes and choppers. Wait for these at airfields and carriers and always remember to flood these area with mines, expacks, other vehicles, sandbags and anything else that will work. If you've been waiting there for 15 minutes then why shouldn't the plane or chopper be yours. If someone else takes your plane they deserve to die instead of maybe helping the team.

C'mon ppl add more!

if only an admin would click on this link

everything wayfarer has stated is correct for DC, although the bit about the camping in hangers is not accurate for DC (enemies are no longer repaired in hangers since 0.3 alpha).

Everything is fine except "Spawn camping is acceptable in Battlefield 1942; that’s how wars are won!".

While spawn camping is acceptable, it's considered by most bad form. Personally I avoid spawn camping, but if your team holds all the flags I'd consider it okay. And you can't seriously think that spawn campers win wars.

I agree with you, Zelph, but the themes above are for the entire community.

In some instances there is little to other than spawn camp, especially a non-capping base. Imagine you force the enemy back to thier base and you have nothing left to do but pitch a tent?

Camping an enemy flag without the intent of capturing it, but to frag the enemy, is considered bad form by many, and not by others. Some feel that player’s intent in scoring high frag stats do this sort of thing. The aim of the game is to capture and hold the flag.

Isn't reducing enemy tickets to 0 a goal aswell. I pretty fine with sitting in APC or something hard and blowing the crap out of everything that spawns so my team can move in to secure. They got other spawns if they die once its their call to spawn in same place and get owned the same way.

It's either me killing them from far or someone sitting at the flag and doing the same. Im just clearing the way for others ... when I'm on foot sure I'm in middle of action but why should I drive to the flag when I know I'm gonna get wasted by grenades.

Well, it does say; without the intent of capturing it.
In both of your scenarios your intention was to cap the flag.

But yeah, the most ineffective way of lowering the score is through frags.
You can control more of the game by the number of flags you hold than sitting back camping a flag and knocking off spawning players. And control is what this game is about, and shooting the enemy is the fun bit

Way, sorry, but you are probably wrong about the flag thing, at least in part.

Once you have a "majority" of flags, any extra flag you hold will give you a bit over 3 extra tickets lost by the enemy every 60 seconds. If you can con 4 people into spawning at that flag, you are ahead. (Tested on BattleAxe, YMMV)

Of course, you need to not let any of them escape, or kill you, and you already need to hold a majority of flags.

As was said in another thread about this. If you are super confident, sit back and kill some spawners. If you look like losing control, or they learn not to spawn there, then grab the flag.

Definately only a tactic for advanced players though, and it also makes you look like a bit of a bastard...

Spawn camping? Grow up. The very essense of BF1942 is often spawn camping. What are you going to do, make all uncapable flag areas no-fight zones?

As for capable flags, do you have some issue about a soldier sneaking near a zone and shooting an enemy as they appear rather than caping the flag Vs a flyboy dropping a bomb on them or a gunner lobbing a tank round in, or a sniper over aways up on a hill doing at a distance what the soldier is doing more up close and personal? They aint caping the flag either, but they are still doing the same killing.

Some parts of the game, like repair points that repair any veichle, invite cheap tactics, but I realy wish this 'spawn camping' blanket had been burned years ago. While I can appreciate that there will always be people who are more concerned with their personal kill-count than actualy winning a game for their team the term 'spawn camping' has been over-used and abused for years. It WAS appropriate, in the days of Quake, but 'spawn camper' has increasingly become little more than a whine without purpose used more as a losers bitter retort than a reasonable complaint against unfair tactics.

Thanks Malthius, yes you are quite right. I'd forgotten about how fast a tank can knock off spawning players

The Old Dog. You are welcome to express your opinion as am I, however, growing up means that at least I can do it without resorting to personal insults to forward a point.

So, anyway, let me straighten out a misunderstanding. The above paragraph points out that some people think its okay, and others don't. There is no bias in the statement unless you read it into it.

Lastly, The Old Dog, I have never said that camping of any sort in BF is against any rules, written or un-written. Personally, I may think repair bay camping is lame, but as it's not against rules and I have never warned, kicked, or banned a player for doing it, even tho I am often asked to do so by the playing public. (****! I've even copped criticism for not kicking a player who’s camping like that)

PS, The Old Dog, if you'd like to suggest a way of rephrasing that paragraph, then please post your version here and I'll see what I can do, but remember, it has to account for the general public's opinion, which is quite divided on the issue.

If people aren't supposed to camp the game makers would have put a time limit on how long you can be in someones base before you self destruct.

Camping won't go away and people just need to get used to it!!

The idea of a war is to eliminate the opposition anyway you can.

Perhaps that is the idea of war Roadkill, and maybe even the idea of a clan war (although I'd disagree) but for public server play, somet hings really aren't appropriate, and that is what this thread is about.

The big question is though, how do you stop it Malthius?

Try and educate the massses?
Kick ppl who camp?

Personally I find camping very boring even if you get kills and yes it certainly isn't in the spirit of the game.

u expect us to read all that?

Maybe for those who can read...

CLockwork ApocaLpyse

Was that an abandoned car you found??

Huh? Wayfarer[GX], I dont get it...it sounds like you feel I have personaly insulted you somehow?!? Where on earth did you think I was directing my post, my message was prompted by what Zelpf wrote, but it was not directed to him or anyone especialy, just people in general who want to jump on the spawn camping bandwagon without first considering that a lot of BF1942 is often inseparable from spawn camping because its a take and hold the flag game. Personaly I have a guilt trip when I run into a bunker to cap a flag and am forced by the nature of the game to kill the people who spawn in front of me untill the flag neuters.

"Lastly, The Old Dog, I have never said that camping of any sort in BF is against any rules, written or un-written...."

??? (scratches head) I already knew that, since I read your first message. Vis "Spawn camping is acceptable in Battlefield 1942; that’s how wars are won!" Where do you think I accuse you of this in my message?

As for me 'rephrasing the last paragraph', do you mean the one that goes 'Camping an enemy flag without the intent of capturing it..(etc)..aim of the game is to capture and hold the flag.'? Why would I want to rephrase it? I agree with it and I think its well written.

LOL! Are you always so hard on people who agree with you?

I still have a sig?

it's a P76 by the way.

LOL The Old Dog, well, if you're going to agree with me, then type slower so I can understand it

So for being a bit "hard" on you

I lub spawn camping and being camped. Very rewarding when you find new ways to beat the living **** out of a camper or finding new ways to beat the MG that is trying to shoot you down while you camp. So Rewarding. VERY REWARDING

CLockwork ApocaLpyse

P76 wasn't quite the car it was supposed to be when released!!

The V8 had some grunt though!! considering the car was very lite. Another thing though we used to call them a P38 half the car they were supposed to be

enough talking lets play the damn game !!!!!

LETS PLAY COD DAMN IT !! AND THATS AN ORDER

"..Go Way!.. Go his Way!.."

What is DC please?

DC = Desert Combat.

I think you'll find that was a joke.

Also, hangar camping is being removed in the 1.4 patch that is being released this weekend...

Is Desert Combat a mod or somthing. Whenever I try to connect to a DC server, nothing happens but I have no trouble connecting to the others? [GA / cogs]

Download DC from the GameArena Files library.

heres an idea....
fix the fkn game so that repair platforms and hangers dont repair enemy units....
i dont know just an idea....

Err, enforcer, here's an idea. Read what I wrote 3 posts above yours. Hangar camping is being removed from the game.

Repair pads - well, if you can't take someone off a repair pad, you aren't trying hard enough.

MALTHIAS!!! REMEMBER ME FROM Q3F ??? !!! HAHAHA

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Repair pads - well, if you can't take someone off a repair pad, you aren't trying hard enough.
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Yes, a well aimed jeep will knock a stubborn tank off a repair pad, especially when you come screaming (literally ) down a hill straight into a unsuspecting Sherman hehe

Hey Ultima

Armunn: Yeah, and even more fun - the allied APC can push a tank off the pad and flip it onto its roof

What's this with all you folks who need vehicles? One well placed rocket or expack

I need a vehicle most times, as I'm more likely to damage the tank by **** on it than attacking it with my assault class gun (at least I have a chance of rusting it )

"Stargate"

I have to agree with you. I love finding them and them killing them!

hey if u really want a plane very bad just go to the area where it spawns and just keep pressing E or catch a ride with the guy on the wing. And for spawn camping well i feel srry for the guy if the whole team spawns there if he doesn't capture the flag

You better get a life nurdy nurds because im comming after ya

I'd like to suggest that the paragraph about driving over team mines be altered to reflect the fact that since 1.4, mines are VERY touchy and will generally detonate if driven over. Perhaps it should read 'drive over team mines slowly only if there is no other way around the blockade, as doing so will likely set them off'.

Good reading guys, here is a thought!

All fair in love and DC (war).

Any reasonable frustrations and or unhealthy game play is an issue for the programmers (map makers), a la next update!!

I like your team work ideas and have experienced it in game, it made for a more involving game.

thxs i think?

RE: Rules of Engagment...
Quote: 'Do not "camp" on a runway waiting for a plane, same for tanks'
Nothing wrong with waiting for a tank or plane to respawn lads, you're better off waiting 30 secs or so for that vehicle than letting the enemy come n get it unopposed.

spawn camping is hella gay.. Not killing spawners when you are going to take a flag, but going to an untakeable flag, when other flags are still in contention, then just hiding and getting kills.

You all seem to waah that its all fair because its war, but its not, its a video game, and you're being selfish in the extreme. Its immensley frustrating to spawn, die, spawn die, by some idiot who has his tank parked on the spawn point.. Alot of people just disconnect from the server, some simply don't return to the game.

You are doing yourself harm. I miss the days when online players where on the average a bit older, and had some for of 'honour'. In WW1 if a pilots machine guns jammed, he would signal his opponent, who would stop attacking and wait until the guys guns unjammed again, it was considered good form.

We play the game for fun, not because we have to, don't ruin it for other people by being a lame ****.

Simple in my view... if you've got all the bases, take the fight up to the enemy, or stay put in your base and wait for them. Either way, you're gonna be spawn camp somewhere.

It's **** that spawn camp when they have other bases to take what ruin it for everyone.

im not sure what the current conversation exactly is, but im sure it regards spawn camping. i'll just leave u with something to think about.

Each kill reduces the enemy's score by 1. on maps that rely heavily on attrition or those with large ticket values, it is considered a good strategy to eliminate as many enemies as easily as possible in order to win for the team.

On maps with 2 main spawn points (or an alternate spawn point), i see no problem having a few guys of the enemy team move up to there. its their fault if they get shot, mined etc, but it is part of the defending team's responsibility to move to the other spawn and base their attacks from there and to take advantage that the enemy is using their defensive power to attack something that will gain them little significance.

theres 2 points for and against spawn camping. However, it can be frustrating, the trick is stealth and effectiveness.

ppl use medic for spawn camping so they heal fast befor other spawn

Interesting points. Noteworthy event is when I was kicked from the DC large maps server for sitting in a tank at the uncappable flag od the enemy killing them. Do I take it that in true gayme areena form these rules are only applicable to people except gayareena gaymeops? EDITED by Wayfarer[GX]

ohhhh plaz u looking to get banned
i say fix the damm auto swap its realy a pain in the butt to spend 5 mins taking a flag from the enemy then to get kicked and spend another 5 mins to get it back !!

I guess the spawncamping thing is totally dependent on personal veiws,
I play TFC as my main game and spawncamping is a taboo,so when i play BF1942 it **** me off no end,i can see why ppl do it to win the round etc etc,but il bet my left nut that it isnt really in the spirit of the game...

I dunno maybe its a case of adapt or play something else,but the wars ive played in so far always end the same way,trapped in spawn..